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1) He's selling a bunch of highly desirable, hard to get Rolexes for under market price. This is called a "red flag".
2) He's hosting images on ibb.co. Another red flag.
3) He's been outed as a scammer previously. Obvious red flag.
4) You couldn't figure out that references could easily be faked with multiple mail accounts? Did you bother researching his references?
5) Fake transactions are easy to do. Anyone can post an ad and then post a followup ad saying it was "sold".
6) The admin here doesn't care about users getting scammed as they refuse to implement simple safeguards.
7) In general, DON'T BUY ROLEXES FROM THIS FORUM unless it's from a well know, cross-referenced seller (generally the used/gray dealers)
8) If you're not smart enough to know these bullet points or can't be bothered to research, you're going to get ripped off buying online. Go to a AD.
: CERTAIN this user is a liar and a thief.
: Paid for this 216570 on 29 November. Since then it's been nothing
: but lazy excuses and small talk and no watch. Claimed several
: transactions on forums and indeed there were some transactions
: that appeared to had taken place in previous weeks with feedback
: in his posts. User wtimer has several listings active.
: The listing I paid for is here:
: It has been two weeks. Wtimer ignored me for 4 days then finally
: texted me at 4 am last night to ask "how are you
: I called him this morning. He mumbled incoherently for a couple of
: minutes then assured me he would ship the watch Monday. I pushed
: to get my btc back and he said he couldn't do that despite the
: return policy offered in writing on his ads. He then trailed off
: mumbling and hung up on me. I am obviously in a bad spot here.
: I am putting a reward out for the real identity of Wtimer with
: proof. 1k for the real identity of email@example.com phone
: number 8135150864 (likely fake #)
: Any advice or help on how to deal with this situation by users here
: is welcome.
: I give it less than 2% that I ever get a refund or my 216570 from
: Wtimer. I feel ashamed and I doubt I will ever use these forums
: ever again. First time user. Any help or recourse is greatly
: appreciated. New or potential new shoppers on this forum should
: know it's not a safe place to shop and users are colluding
: together or making multi accounts to post fake feedback on their
: listings. Phone number used was 8135150864. His email was as
: described in listings firstname.lastname@example.org
: You should be ashamed of yourself and embarrassed that this is how
: you have to get through your life wtimer. Your own existence is
: your punishment. You will undoubtedly reap what you sow. You
: sound weak and tired on the phone. Real men go out and work like
: bosses, then go buy Rolex. Criminal bitches like you hide behind
: the computer and take advantage of those men with no plan in
: life. People like you die alone in a hotel or in jail. Hopefully
: slow. Remember that when you're out spending my money on
: whatever you buy which I am positive isn't Rolex.
: I want my 216570 or my money right now. In the off chance you're
: not a criminal you owe me and these forums an explanation of why
: you can't ship out your merchandise in an efficient manner.
: If in the very, very off chance I get my 216570 or my money back I
: will gladly apologize in public and delete this. Like I said 2%
: chance is my gut feeling there so I am pretty comfortable in my
: assertions that you're a liar and thief.
: -I paid user wtimer 6.5k btc on 29 november for a 216570. Can
: provide screen shots of the transaction.
: -Wtimer has made excuses for 2 weeks and ignored me for up to 4
: days at a time. Can provide screen shots of the conversation.
: -Wtimer took a phone call and mumbled a bunch of excuses then hung
: up the phone refusing to honor his advertised turn policy.
: -New users should know that this is not at all a safe place to buy
: an expensive watch.
: -1k bounty on his confirmed identity with proof no questions asked.
: - Phone number used was 8135150864. His email was as described in
: listings email@example.com