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A forum for identifying and avoiding wholly or partially non-authentic wristwatches --
including counterfeit, replica, Frankenwatches and other fake or bastardized pieces.
Our objective here is to DISCOURAGE the sales and purchase of counterfeit
wristwatch and jewelry products. It is also for helping people identify
watches that are mostly authentic, but have been: altered for personal customization,
repaired with inappropriate parts or modified to be passed off as more valuable pieces.
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Ok,
My observations are these:-
The first auction on ebay, it's a fraud. If you look at the photos you will see that quite obviously some are promo pictures, some are apparently self made. The promo pictures, ignore them, they tell us nothing. The self made ones, check them again, in one of them we see a shot of the watch in the box. It looks the wrong colour. Further to this the bracelet appears to have some plastic on it. Real Omega watches, as far as I am aware, do not come with plastic on the bracelet. Fakes do. It feels wrong and at $860 dollars it needs to feel right.
The second one is something more obvious and let me say in no uncertain terms having read what's been asked and mentioned in the Q & A section you'd have to be a prize boob to pay for this.
THe explanation of Swiss smuggled is 'swiss parts assembled in malaysia'. So it's not an Omega, it doesn't use Omega parts, it was assembled by someone out of the factory environment and it's not a chronometer. Fair assumptions? Possibly so. However it stinks of fake. On the photos the bracelet has the blue film over the clasp, that looks ok, but again the bracelet itself looks to have a covering. This is something that comes on all fakes.
In a nutshell they both stink and you'd be better off getting a 007 edition from a reliable secondhand dealer with a good track record.
All the best for a happy new year,
Pete J
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