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Vintage Omega, re-dials or fakes? *LINK*

Is it me or does the 'Bay' seem to have a lot of vintage Omegas that seem to be a bunch of NOS pieces and parts put together? Admittedly, I am still a novice at judging authenticity but there are things that bother me. It's hard to tell if these are legit.

Obviously these watches (see links) have been redialed. If they want to make these look authentic, why do they add extras to the Swiss Made, i.e. - Swiss Made - or T - Swiss Made - T. One does not even say Swiss Made! What is that?! I have never actually seen any of my real Swiss Made watches with extra characters or missing the label, Swiss Made.

Have they simply been redialed or are they suspect for being completely faked by some “expert counterfeiters” in China, Hong Kong , etc.?

(Won't let me do 3 links - here are all three URL's for "cut and paste")

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