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Re: Isn't this Omega Seamaster 2265.5 fake?

: After a brain-squeezing inspection, I believe
: it's fake. Just have a close look at number
: 40 and its indicater. It's supposed the
: centre of the indicater should point between
: 4 and 0 excatly, but here it points to 4.
: The same case goes for number 50. Also, the
: dots on the bezel don't match the indicaters
: of the seconds. So I believe it's fake.
: Mmmmm, am I right, guys????

I have my doubts that it is possible to detect fakes by comparison of the position of the numbers on the bezel and the minute marks on the dial.

It all revolves round the question of perspective and, as photographers will tell you, with wide angle lenses this consideration is quite large.

Detecting fakes in this way is an extremely exacting business, and would require knowledge of

(i) the focal length of the lens of the camera taking the picture

(ii) the distance from the camera to the midway point between bezel and dial

(iii)the precise (to within 0.01mm) distance between the bezel and the dial.

(iv) The sapphire glass also has a refractive index and this would have to be known too.

Further, if one number/minute mark were out, the rest would have to be too.

My initial thought is that the seller has a good record and is unlikely to deal in fakes. The dealer also certifies that he (and his more knowledgeable co-worker) has checked the watch out and it is 100% Omega.

Further, if, in these extremely unlikely circumstances, it turns out to be a fake, the seller is bound to give a refund and nothing but time will have been lost.

I don't think that the seller has done himself any favours though, even though Small numbers are difficult to photograph clearly, he seems to have enhanced the picture containing the serial number on the lug - probably just to emphasise that the number on the card and that on the lug are clearly the same.

On an overall view of the watch and the seller's history and reputation, I reckon that it is genuine.

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