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A forum for identifying and avoiding wholly or partially non-authentic wristwatches -- including counterfeit, replica, Frankenwatches and other fake or bastardized pieces. Our objective here is to DISCOURAGE the sales and purchase of counterfeit wristwatch and jewelry products. It is also for helping people identify watches that are mostly authentic, but have been: altered for personal customization, repaired with inappropriate parts or modified to be passed off as more valuable pieces.

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Is this real?

A friend just offered me a deal on his seamaster pro. He is a well respected Physician in my town. I took the watch to my local dealer who knows us both. He observed that the crystal seemed to reflect more than normal. He also pointed out the bezel was a bit to much backplay and that it counted 60 clicks around as opposed to 120. It has a black dial with the speedy bracelet. The insert is also all polished steel??? Is this odd or did some of these things not disqualift this watch? It is quite new. I am very frustrated. My Doctor friend is as shocked as I. He will give the money back but I want to make sure the dealer is right before giving it back. I bought it for 750.00.

Thanks

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