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A forum for identifying and avoiding wholly or partially non-authentic wristwatches -- including counterfeit, replica, Frankenwatches and other fake or bastardized pieces. Our objective here is to DISCOURAGE the sales and purchase of counterfeit wristwatch and jewelry products. It is also for helping people identify watches that are mostly authentic, but have been: altered for personal customization, repaired with inappropriate parts or modified to be passed off as more valuable pieces.

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Re: Patek Philippe Fake Detection
In Response To: Patek Philippe Fake Detection ()

: I just got a gift watch Patek Philippe from a
: relative and i am embarrased to ask if the
: watch is genuine or fake.

A Patek watch is going to be a $5,000-15,000 or more watch. Is this relative someone who could possibly have given you a gift worth that much?

: it has a serial No: 5ATM No.438

That is not a serial number. 5ATM is a water resistance rating of 5 atmospheres. 1 ATM = 35 feet, so 5 ATM is a water resistance of about 175 feet. The other is probably a style number.

: the 24 hour dial does not appear to be working
: or is not accurate

That is a common sign of a fake--nonworking extra features.

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