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A forum for identifying and avoiding wholly or partially non-authentic wristwatches -- including counterfeit, replica, Frankenwatches and other fake or bastardized pieces. Our objective here is to DISCOURAGE the sales and purchase of counterfeit wristwatch and jewelry products. It is also for helping people identify watches that are mostly authentic, but have been: altered for personal customization, repaired with inappropriate parts or modified to be passed off as more valuable pieces.

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Counterfeit Lejour?

I just bought a Lejour chrono(valjoux 7750) that on top of other problems (chrono function not working properly, despite seller assuring so) seems to have foreign parts. The case back is black, and signed as itika watch swiss. Only reference number that I could find from it was 7000, which doesn´t really seem to match with reality. The case itself, that looked in the pictures to be the concave Heuer Pasadena type has actually a shrap step in it around the bezel ring.

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