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Re: Speedmaster Moonphase Legit? *LINK*

: I am a little cautious with this one on eBay,
: note the known genuine version, the genuine
: on has the seconds divided into 1/5 marks,
: yet the one on eBay has it in 1/3 of a
: second.

: The other difference is that the moonphase disc
: on the known genuine model has a blue
: background with gold stars (if I'm not
: mistaken the same stars as appear on the
: back of old Constellations), whereas the
: eBay one seems to have a black background.

: Also the sub-dials of the known genuine one are
: designed with concentric circles all the way
: to the centre - the eBay version seems to
: have them only for a short distance and they
: are less distinct.

: Finally, and not visible on the genuine one,
: the words T-SWISS-T appear on a genuine one,
: this seems to have the Ts missing.

: I would want to see photos of the insides of
: the eBay one before I would even think of
: buying it. And a set of papers wouldn't go
: amiss...

Hold that thought, I've looked a bit further and found one at http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/omega/watches/other/3576.50.00.jpg
the seconds are divided into 1/3rds, there is no T before or after Swiss but the moonphase dial is still blue, rather than black.

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