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I bought this on e-bay. The dial and hands seem vintage, and the parts seem to match up (136.011, cal 611, 40u stamped on case and caseback). The lume is nearly kaput as you'd expect. The only problem is the obliterated serial number. The seller claims no knowledge yada yada... The watch runs and looks great. I intended to flip it for a profit, but it's so nice I want to keep it now. Plus I suspect the serial number issue devalues it seriously. Sorry the pics aren't that great.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g143/afremont/movement.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g143/afremont/serial.jpg
Seller has lots of positive feedback, sells items that have been donated to charitable orgs that he buys in bulk. No reason to suspect he's lying. Were there grey market watches back then?
I can take more pics if desired.
Thanks
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