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Re: No, it is genuine, BUT...
In Response To: No, it is genuine, BUT... ()

: It has a rotating bezel, so may merely be
: bumped out of position. That is in no way a
: sign of a fake.

I guess it's perspective in the photo, but I didn't think the bezel and the dial could be made to align on that watch.

: Actually, I see them. Looks like the one photo
: provided was taken at such extreme closeup
: that there is a bit of forced perspective on
: it. Kind of like shooting a normal scene
: through a wide-angle lens. But the guards
: are there on the right side.

Ah, I see.

: While they look smaller than they ought to,
: realize that the seller MAY have unscrewed
: the crown to stop the watch for the photo.
: That could make the crown guards look
: shorter than they really are.

Shouldn't the tip of the second hand be red or at least orange (age) though?

: On the real thing, the bracelet end pieces ARE
: solid. It is the links that are made of nine
: separate pieces.

: That model has SKELETON hands, not the sword
: hands. But I think my next comment will
: explain why the hands look a little 'off.'

Oops, meant to write "skeleton."

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