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A forum for identifying and avoiding wholly or partially non-authentic wristwatches -- including counterfeit, replica, Frankenwatches and other fake or bastardized pieces. Our objective here is to DISCOURAGE the sales and purchase of counterfeit wristwatch and jewelry products. It is also for helping people identify watches that are mostly authentic, but have been: altered for personal customization, repaired with inappropriate parts or modified to be passed off as more valuable pieces.

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Re: No, it is genuine, BUT...
In Response To: Re: No, it is genuine, BUT... ()

: Shouldn't the tip of the second hand be red or
: at least orange (age) though?

They can fade to white. It takes a lot of sun exposure, though.

So I think the only real issue with that watch is it being misleadingly described as the larger, slightly more expensive version. Likely the seller has no clue that there were two virtually identical (except size) models of that style. He just found on the Web what looked like a match to him and copied the details on size, price, etc. into his auction listing.

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