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A forum for identifying and avoiding wholly or partially non-authentic wristwatches --
including counterfeit, replica, Frankenwatches and other fake or bastardized pieces.
Our objective here is to DISCOURAGE the sales and purchase of counterfeit
wristwatch and jewelry products. It is also for helping people identify
watches that are mostly authentic, but have been: altered for personal customization,
repaired with inappropriate parts or modified to be passed off as more valuable pieces.
Including a photo of the piece you are talking about ALWAYS helps! You can learn how to post a photo here: How To Include Photos In Your Postings. 'For sale' postings, commercial solicitation and ads are not allowed. Links to Internet auctions are acceptable only if their purpose is to question the authenticity of a product or provide new clues for identifying counterfeit products. Links that appear to be 'shills' promoting the sale of counterfeit products will be deleted. Links to websites of sellers of counterfeit items are not permitted -- we know they are out there and do not need to be encouraging them by sending traffic to their sites. Privacy, additional policies and administrivia are covered in the Terms of Use.
I recently purchased a Raymond Weil Tosca model #5864S. It was hard to come by since they were discontinued. My wife went to have it size and the jeweler(jewery store chain) said that it was a gray market because the braclet had pins instead of screws, and that we should return it and they would sell us a newer model, not a Tosca, for about $300 more. Now My daughter's name is Tosca and this is one of the reasons for buying this watch. I was informed by other dealers that Raymond Weil made some upgrades to their line of watches (braclet being one of them) and that they decided to continue some of the lines ie. Don Giovanni, Othello, and drop others. Now my watch came with box, papers, credit card warranty and has the serial # on the back of the watch. Does anyone else out there have a Raymond Weil Tosca circa 2001 that has pins in the braclet and not screws or know if this was indeed a upgrade to newer models.
Thank you,
David
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