From my hundreds of conversations with Chuck over the last five and one-half years, I am confident that Chuck would want the show to go on . . . with minimal interruptions of the discussions.

Yes, we will all grieve and cope in our own ways . . . for some, it may be browsing Chuck's homepage or folders, for others it may be studying and photographing Monaco dials, for others it may be working on a new software implementation (as Chuck would say, "he goes wink, wink") . . . as long as we are all respectful of each other and the community that Chuck helped us create. He was all about sharing information and having good conversations . . . Chuck would want us to continue these pursuits.

Jeff

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: Well, still shell shocked I'll respond.

: Dial talk seems ridiculous when we grieve for
: one who added so much.

: But although we never met I'm sure Chuck would
: like debates bubbling along, in this way.

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: I'm certain they are genuine, and I'm talking
: about the correct ones, not the refinished
: ones which do exist.....

: The late 70's were lean times for Heuer....and
: indeed the entire Swiss industry.

: Now, I'm a product manager and in lean times
: you extract some extra margin from cutting
: corners via re-engineering your product,
: i.e. by reformulating your product.

: So (and note, no proof here but hypothesis) -
: if as a component of total product cost the
: pristine dial was x-y% of the product cost,
: and as Heuer you could increase your margin
: through lowering the cost of a part, e.g.a
: dial, for a watch at the end of it's product
: lifecycle, and in the face of a crisis
: bought on by Quartz.....well, you decide on
: the likely direction Heuer took.

: Rolex dials for the Submariner vary greatly
: from the 50's to today, e.g. the R O L E X
: font, serifs, spacing etc etc varies; and
: the CROWN device itself varies greatly as
: represented on dials......to my mind, this
: nice old Heuer is the same; changed fonts,
: changed production processes- especially
: when all else- movement, case, glass,
: crowns, pushers, etc etc are the same.

: Yes, there are some refinished dials, and yes,
: IMHO there are some Mk II or MkIII or Mk
: "whatever" dials for the last of
: series, last of the Monacos, the ref 73633.

: Love the debate, thanks to everyone for the
: contributions.

: Ciao!

: SCK.