So some info from the watch front...not the swine flew front...may be we can cross a swine and a chicken flew for a swine-chicken flew...any biochemists outside?

- so some info. Sifferts till strong at 4000 euro currently. the market is VERY dry; we have just seen a manual siffert going crazy at ebay (AMH post)
- the market generally for heuers is dry: watch fairs are empty
- prices for heuers remain strong, may be strongest in the market currently: however not for Viceroy et al models: also the outsiders like Daytona, Monza ect have lost further in value...

- tudors : I followed the monte carlos: these dropped back to 6000 euro !!!!!! so 40% of maximum
- rolex explorer 1655: dropped back to 6000 euro !!!!!! so 35% of maxium
- breitling vintage: half the price in GMT, superocean, yachting against 2008; navitimer 1806 you get for 1200-1300 euro including bracelet in good deals. LED is 1200 (was 2800), led 9416 is still high at 1500 euro (but also was 1900 before).

led and lcd watches dropped dramatically in the last few weeks. no matter which brand, conditon or completeness of a set.

So any other observations from the non-heuer brands??? how about doxa, enicar, certina ds????

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