Jeff - don't disagree with your opinion at all, however i was coming from the slant of "what i would bid" which was an option in your original post. I should have written as such on my original post, my fault. Agree your prices are close to what dealers would ask. In my experience that Spanish dealer does not move his Monacos on very often (or quickly) at his listed prices...

Yep, lets find some nos Monacos, they are very difficult to pin down values wise but i'd never want to keep one (as i'm a wearer not a safe keeper!) so the valuation uplift isn't as large in my eyes as it is for some (and no hard evidence to back it up)

on: Rich's List / Estimates of Values:

: 1. £4500 genuine NOS [$7,100 / 4,800 Euro]
: 2. £3750 put together perfect part nos [$5,900 / 4,000 Euro]
: 3. £3500 mint [$5,530 / 3,750 Euro]
: 4. £2000 if redial. [$3,150 / 2,150 Euro]

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: Shown above is Rich's list of values. Let me make a couple of
: comments, in order to provide my opinion on a Rich's estimates
: of the values.

: Let's start with the Number 3. "Aged to
: Perfection" [Mint] sample . . . I start with
: this one, because I believe that it is the only one for which we
: can have some degree of certainty. After all, this is the only
: one which we can reasonably expect to see . . . if not exactly
: as I described it, at least we will see some that are close to
: this "Mint" condition. Rather than selling at $5,500,
: with bracelet, I believe that this one hits in the $7,000 range
: (or $6,000 without the bracelet), when sold by a reputable
: dealer. I provide this estimate with some confidence, because we
: have actually seen a couple of them move in this range, in the
: recent past. Shown below is one recently listed by Exotic Watch.
: Look at the lume . . . look at the hands . . . look at the
: strength of the print and the marks on the dial. Yes, this one
: is worth at least $7,000 . . . maybe hitting $7,500; I believe
: that Rich's estimate of $5,500 (dealer price) is far short of
: the mark.

: Now, some quick comments on the other three, shown in Rich's list
: of values. Rich lists the "True NOS" at $7,100, but I
: think this is low. Let me point out that in watching these
: Monacos for almost 10 years, I can say that I do not recall ever
: seeing a "True NOS" 73633 B Monaco . . . not sure why
: not. If we were to see one, I would estimate that it would sell
: for $9,000.

: On the "Put Together NOS", I'm not sure I can recall
: seeing many of these, but imagine a perfect dial ($1,500), a
: perfect case and bracelet ($2,000), perfect hands and needles
: ($?,???), and the movement . . . put it all together,
: fully disclose what you are selling, and my
: guess is that Rich is pretty close, at $6,000.

: And now we get to the one that started this whole discussion . . .
: some might call it "New Old Something" . . . others
: might call it "New Old Sh*t" . . . I can't tell you
: what it really is, or how it came to be that way, but I would
: estimate that it sells in the $3,000 to $4,000 range . . .
: again, if it is accurately described.

: So here's my list: True NOS . . . $9,000 Put Together NOS, fully
: disclosed as such . . . $6,000 Aged to Perfection / Mint . . .
: $7,000 to $7,500 New Old Sh*t . . . $3,000 to $4,000
: This has been a fun couple of threads . . . now, let's all go out
: and find (or assemble) that NOS beauty!!

: Jeff

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