Jarl

It is an interesting thought, indeed we do see only a few Siffert colours in general, however i think as the brand continues to become more "visible" (even to non watch collectors) we will see more arrive to the market (i hope)!

I'd be very surprised if Heuer did not make several hundreds (in total all Siffert colour dials could extend into low thousands even) of both automatic and the several manual wind dials, as it is generally believed (except for special order or prototypes) Heuer ordered dials in batches of 100 minimum at a time. Of course as a number this is still relatively small, so rare is a relative term, compared to Rolex they are the mother of rare watches, but probably equally rare compared with some other less discovered Swiss vintage brands.

I'm sure we could extend this "rareness" to many other references, the Autavia 73663 bund, 1163 Orange, both black and white, GMT's, frankly the list goes on an on...because Heuer tried so many different dial iterations it does help make each one that bit more special and rarer. For example for each thousand of the 70s Autavias Viceroys could make up 50-60% or even more and then maybe possibly 10-20 other dials make up the remainder, so obviously it is possible there are quite a few that might have only been made in batches of 100-200. Add to this that people wanted automatic watches in this period (as they were the new game in town) so manual wind (whilst using up movements and offering cheaper alternatives) probably were rarer than the auto's.

Anyways excsue my ramblings, hopefully Mr Moss will read the thread, i feel he will have quite a good take on the numbers game! It is a shame that unlike Zenith and Omega there were production records kept, i keep searching for anything that gives more of a steer on this subject, but so far nothing has surfaced.

Cheers

Rich

: We have spend some time discussing the production number of the
: ref. 1163 "Siffert".

: That got me thinking about the manual wind "Sifferts"
: Autavia ref 73363 / 73463 and three register 73663.

: I'm very happy with my 73463. They seems even rarer than the real
: automatic "Siffert".

: Do we have any idea of the production numbers of these nice
: Autavias?

: Regards

: Jarl
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