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: Chuck, i honestly never took your reply as talking down in any way, my apology was just in case the question was not put in the right place or specific to this forum, i have been on many sites where you get major grief for posting in the wrong place and ask questions that sound dumb to those that obviously have the knowledge but not the manners, which i know you do have. Thanks for firing the questions back at me, it will give me something to mull over, will let you know if i commit, speak soon, James.