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Re: Chronograph 12-110 Ebauche Suisse

Thank you Mark,

They are less appropriate and fair.
The links more photos of this head Heuer......
http://lechneric.free.fr/Montres/Heuer/Heuer%20ES%2012.110/index.html

Must I remove the sticker to get more information?

A note on brushed the caseback is similar to the brushed watch Revorbaro?
Maybe my model is the same but with a black coating?

Eric

: I'm always a bit wary with these. Even the more familiar models we
: know from catalogues - all the components needed to assemble the
: watches were being freely sold on the German market in the late
: 90s and early 2000s, and if they were there, I don't doubt they
: were in other countries too.

: It's such a shame that these don't confirm to any of the known
: Heuer reference number schemas, or to the usual serial number
: ranges - they are both very useful diagnostic tools. Take the
: Monaco case AndyO links above for example - the serial number
: stamped would be from about 1986 or 1987 extrapolating forward
: from numbers we do know, long after they stopped making the
: Monaco. That's one of the reasons I wouldn't be keen on a serial
: numbers register - it gives more ammunition to the fakers and
: takes away one of our tools for spotting originality at a
: glance. But we can't use those here as the factory watches of
: this type don't fall into the known ranges.

: So we fall back to looking at the details, as Stewart has done
: below:

:
:

: I have some concerns about that caseback too - I'd expect the
: brushing to be all in the same direction and level, but there
: appears to be some deeper marks that are less horizontal than
: the general finish. Looking at that and the earlier picture:

:
:

: too, the brushed finish doesn't run right to the edge of the flat
: plane as I would expect it to on a Heuer. There seems to be a
: bit of a border rather than running right to the edge. The white
: fibres on the sticker are unusually prominent - might have been
: soaked off, the caseback refinished then the sticker reapplied?

: Looking at the second photo makes me question whether the case is
: PVDed or just painted? Or potentially painted over an earlier
: PVD layer - the chip near the bottom pusher seems to show an
: earlier layer of black material under the top layer? And where
: the caseback meets the case looks odd too - looks more like
: silver paint with lines along it than steel. Is the main case
: definitely steel, or could it be chrome-plated base metal?

: Looking at the dial, we're searching for familiar details from
: other examples of this type of watch. I'll borrow one of
: Revorbaro's pics from Vetroplastica, hope he doesn't mind!

:

: We're on firmer ground here. The tachy scale looks the same, as do
: the markers. The distinctive shape of the chrono needles is also
: present and correct. The handset differs apart from that, but
: we've seen a few different types of hands on these (which is a
: slight worry). Revorbaro's watch has a black date wheel, but
: we've seen red dates on these before too. The "Made in
: France" versus "Ebauche Suisse" thing isn't a
: problem - the earlier watches carry "Ebauche Suisse"
: to stress the link with Switzerland before later watches come
: clean with "Made in France". The acid yellow and black
: combo is new on me, but as Stewart suggests could be a customer
: special. Anyone know a company with those colours and no
: recognisable logo to put on the dial?!

: There is so much that is mysterious about these watches at this
: period of production, it's hard ever to be sure. I posted some
: positives and some negatives there, but I think on balance I'd
: still reserve judgement!

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