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Heuer Super Autavia confusion

To Jeff, Chuck, or other gurus of the Super Autavia dash mounted clocks. I am not a "collector" of watches per se, but I bought a Super Autavia new in the early 60's (I can't recall the exact year) when I was a navigator on a TSD rally team in the Northwest. I loved that watch, and it was my primary timepiece throughout the 60's. It was indeed "dash mounted", first in a Corvair Monza and then in a '65 TR4, and suffered its share of dust and vibration on many roads. Over time, a weakness of the watch showed itself by periodic loosening of the stem detent, causing the crown and stem to pull out. A local watchmaker of the day (with sportscar connections) probably got tired of me hauling the watch into his shop/workroom for "another fix".
In the late 60's I moved on to other sportscar activities and my Curta and SuperAutavia went into storage.
Last year I discovered your wonderful site, and decided to resurrect the watch from storage. The intervening years had not been kind to the crystal and it was crazed. The stem was also loose, so I decided to spring for a good cleaning, replacement of the crystal, and repair of the winding stem. My new watchmaker (actually an old, very experienced, gentleman) managed to satisfy the first two with no problems. The stem finally gave up the ghost and sheared where it goes into the crown. I managed to obtain the necessary parts through eBay from a seller in Madagascar!
After all that wordy leadup, I'll finally get to my questions.
From viewing the text and pictures on OTD, I had thought that my SuperAutavia was a "middle version", powered by the Valjoux 5. Recent observations have left me confused.
1 - The watch actually has a Valjoux 76 movement, verified by comparison to one of your movement pictures and the "76" under the balance wheel. There is also a movement # there, and my watchmaker is trying to retrieve that information.
2 - The hands are as shown in your pictures, with a straight, narrow, hour hand and a fatter, "curved" minute hand (not the skinny one shown on the early SA photos).
3 - The dial does not contain the tritium legend found on later watches. The hands and hour markings have yellowed over the years and do not glow much anymore (if at all).

So, what do I have here? Some kind of crossover model between the "early" and "middle" models? Does that give it any special significance or value? Curious minds need to know :-)

Herb

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