my powers of observation failed me on that one. sorry, i only looked on the casebacks. as i noticed on the other (bmw)that it had hong kong stamped on it. the other one had nothing stamped into the plastic case. both came with heuer boxes and complete papers. i was thinking maybe the bmw one was a good knockoff, maybe? or is it possible that heuer had these made in hong kong under their name, or had the cases made in hong kong? i plan on opening it tonight to see what is inside....should be interesting...whether it's a swiss movement or a chinese one?

anyways, thanks for the info...greatly appreciated! oh and yes i agree with Jim please post a pic of your car and the timer...i'd like to see both. thanks!

j.h.