: Don't get me wrong, I don't think that any
: Omega is weak at all. If one is truly
: objective today about watches, one has to
: agree that in general, the two manufacturers
: who make the toughest watches around are
: Rolex and Omega. And while Rolex's in-house
: movements sometimes look crude, they are
: tough as nails. So are Omega's movements
: after Omega tweaks the ETA units. Of course
: the Lemania movements in the Speedmaster
: Professionals can just about be considered
: in house movements since Omega has owned
: Lemania forever now. The cases contribute a
: lot as well. I think there is plenty of
: shock resistance in a caliber 1120. It is
: just that Abert Piguet's masterpieces in the
: form of the Lemania Caliber 321/851 are
: tanks without the crudeness of Rolex. Some
: say Albert Piguet wasn't even that surprised
: when he found out that the Speedmaster
: sporting his movement was the only watch
: that survived the NASA tests. He designed it
: that way. As for the chronograph being a
: source of potential problems, I strongly
: disagree. If it were a piggyback unit,
: maybe. But not on a movement that was
: conceived as a chronograph. I could say the
: same for the Valjoux 7750. But compared to a
: 7750, there is less to break in a Lemania
: Omega caliber 321/851. There is also no date
: mechanism which is arguably the weakest part
: of any movement along with the automatic
: winding system and the rotor and shaft. The
: Lemania calibers are almost agrarian in
: nature. Like tractors. Just put a
: speedmaster to your ear and listen. Whenever
: I travel, I am always looking for some good
: old speedys that might be worthwhile to pick
: up to restore. I have never picked one up
: that had the either the chronograph
: functions or anything else for that matter
: not work. Of course it can happen, but this
: is a tough watch. Most mechanical movements
: last forever with the right kind of
: maintenance. My wife has been wearing an
: auto Rolex since the late eighties when she
: was in highschool. When she got it, the
: watch was already over a decade old. She
: plays tennis every day and the thing is
: still ticking. Of course it goes in every
: five years. But I still think there is less
: to go wrong in a Speedmaster Pro with manual
: wind. The hesalite crystal is a non-issue.
: And I will argue with anybody that says
: otherwise. Same for the crown. It is more
: than well protected. Besides, I have seen
: some seventies Speedys where the bezel is
: beat to hell but the crown still looks
: great. Of course, why those folks did not
: change the bezel is beyond me. The only
: thing in overall durability that the
: Seamaster has over the Speedmaster is water
: ristance. Theoretically, in every other
: factor the Speedmaster should be at least as
: tough. Though considering that tractor motor
: inside, probably even more. Again, one
: cannot forget that even the super tough
: Daytona, which sported an El Primero
: movement, did not pass the same NASA tests.
: Another stupid thing I like about the
: speedmaster, since it has been made for so
: long, is the availability of spare parts
: like crystals, different measurement bezels
: and even movements. These can be easily
: found on ebay or Frei & Borel. Just this
: week, there were two brand new Speedaster
: cases for sale on ebay. This reminds me of
: air-cooled Porsche 911 ownership. Harry,
: ultimately, it is your decision to make. But
: I am just stating the fact that a lot of
: people making statents about both the
: watches don't own both and the statements
: could be erroneous. I want to state that the
: Speedmaster is at least as tough. Heck, even
: Ed White's survived the Apollo 1 fire. Also,
: I find that some people who own the speedy
: don't realize themselves how tough it is. Or
: maybe they have some worries due to the
: price they paid. Not me. I treat mine like I
: treat a Swatch. I wear mine 24/7. Most old
: men that have been wearing them since youth
: do the same. Sorry for the length of the
: posts, but I feel that Speedmaster needs the
: right things to be said about it. Even in
: this forum. For some good Speedy pictures,
: go to the link below.
Thanks for the replies - great information.
Why is the Lemania movement not chronometer certified? Is this to keep it as faithful to the original moonwatch as possible? What kind of accuracy are you seeing with yours? What kind of accuracy would you consider unacceptable for this watch?
