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Re: about breitling movements

In Response To: Re: about breitling movements ()

: Yes the 2824 is a common movement -- mainly
: because it is both reliable and cheap. And
: yes, the 2892-A2 is considered a
: "finer" movement -- any movement
: that would give nearly equal performance and
: reliability but in half the space would be
: considered a "finer movement". But
: there is no evidence that it is any more
: reliable or precise than a 2824 (some even
: consider the 2824 the more rugged one but
: I'm unable to make this determination).
: Also, an unmodified 2892-A2 is relatively
: cheap too!

: Please have a close look at both calibers
: because I cannot see how you can say that.

: Actually, I'm not connvinced that a Rolex 3135
: is any better than an ETA 2892 or an ETA
: 2824 -- but I know you'll disagree. But you
: must agree that the Rolex movement is not as
: nicely finished (and looks a bit ugly) when
: compared to either the Omega cal 1120 or the
: Breitling cal 17 -- most Rolex fans will say
: so what, when it comes to the look and
: finish.

: I hope to get a copy of the Omega Saga someday
: ...

: Your saying that the 1164 has more
: modifications -- it doesn't follow from this
: that it has "better finish and
: quality". WatchTime gave a favourable
: report on the accuracy of the Chronomat. I
: once owned a Crosswind Racing (a Chronomat
: variation) that kept to -.25s loss per day
: consistently.

: Perhaps if you tell me what the purpose of the
: Omega modifications are, then I could better
: judge.
I had a close look at both calibers last year at my watchmaker and the Omega 1120 looks far more better than the Breitling 17. The Omega 1120 has an improved winding system and rotor the Breitling not, the Breitling has 42 hours of power reserve and the Omega 44 hours, the Omega is a more accurate movement than the Breitling. Some omega 1120 owners said that accuracy was under 4 sec per week and this out of the box.
About the Rolex 3135 I invite you to go to Timezone and read Andrew Babanin article on the Rolex 3135 service, it says positive things the rolex finish. I have seen a 3135 calibre in person and it looks better than a cal 17.
Watchtime can say a lot of favorable thing for Breitling but it doesn't change the fact that the Omega version of the Valjoux is better why?
The winding system is improved in order to turn more smoothly, the main spring and balance wheel are severely modified in order to procure greater accuracy over the long run.
Omega saga is only written in French for your information.