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Thanks Richard- I should have the dial for the watch today. I should mention my goal with this watch is have what is in my mind, the best of both worlds. I want a case that I feel I can wear everyday, without mortification is a scratch occurs, while protecting and using a 321 movement. Unable to find the 321 movement that is for me just yet, I am looking for a quicker solution with the 861 or 1861. We'll see how it all turns out.
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