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Thanks, but then why does IWC use ETA still today, in their Aquatimer? Is it possible that ETA does make a durable and accurate movement that is generally very reliable? Please don't take my persistance as anything other then a great interest in the industry and watches in general. Also, to clarify regarding the Swatch decision, I understood that Swatch would no longer deliver kits to watch companies outside the Swatch Grp as a QA/QC measure. Am I correct, or have they decided end all sales. They reportedly became very disturbed with where many of their movements had been ending up in recent years, namely Chinese replicas. As many movements as they make, I'm not sure they will ever get a handle on that unless, as you report, they take very drastic measures. Thanks, by the way, for the answer about the origin of auto movements. I have an old Omega that my dad wore that had a bumber movement. Cheers
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