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Hi Teeritz

It is not slagging of Omega put just pointing the fact that Omega made the Planet Ocean in order to grab some Sea Dweller and Sub customers from Rolex and this product was a result from Hayek's marketing strategy. Omega made also fast beat movement the cal 100x, 1010x and 102x which powered the plo prof, the 1000m and other interesting 120m and 200m water resistant seamaster. Those calibers even in their time were superior to the eta 2892-a2introduced by eta.Yes I know that Omega was supplying watches to the Navy with the 300, Rolex also supplied the British Navy with the sub 5517 (rare watch today exceeding the $20000 of price).
When you mean rugged it means that it has been tested through years under rough abuse as well as severe wear and tear. The speedmaster pro is a proven Omega watch as much as is the normal seamaster.
Rolex Service in USA isn't the best,when you have bad and unfriendly customer service it is normal that you can expect that they return you a watch working accurately. Nor is Omega service better with new jersey who is probably the 2nd lancaster if not worse.
About IWC they used the eta 2892 in their IWC porsche 2000 dive watch that they also supplied to the german kampfschwimmer, I know that IWC has a long term experience with the eta 2892-a2
but that doesn't make the eta 2892-a2 a great or better movement than the former inhouse iwc 85xx series or than the new iwc 80110 series of movement found on the new ingenieur or the iwc 5000 both fitted with the samuel pellaton winding system considered alongwith rolex jeweled pivot system as far better than the 2892-a2 bal bearing winding system. Breitling uses an eta 2824-2 for its divers (that movement costs itself $75) and it is nothing exceptionnal wether it comes to quality or long term accuracy, the super ocean or ocean are overpriced watches,you can buy a stowa for less money which will be as good as a breitling ocean or super ocean.
Another fact is that Omega is not a manufacture anymore, Eta makes the movements for them as does Frederic Piguet. Omega is what I cal lan assembleur. Not all Hayek decisions were that great, the 33xx was a bad decision, seeing how much failures there were and there till are, stopping the 5100 was also a stupid decision, claiming that a coaxial won't need a 10 year service interval when clearly it hasn't been proven was not a good thing too.
When OMEGA claims something they have to back it up with serious facts not test laboratories or any marketing hype argument,when you say a watch is rugged, make experiments by using the watch in the harshest condition and you will see how good it is rugged or not.
The real diving watches are tools like the marathon sar,the chopard pro one,the certina ds3 (the older model),the blancpain fifty fathoms(vintage models) but also limited editions and the normal edition (who are both new models),auricoste spirotechnique and other watches that have been tested through time.
I ma not excluding other brands just saying that today the watches that are often synonym of the tool dive watch and at the same time a luxury is the rolex dive watch.

just my 2 cents

regards

georges

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