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Re: Omega Speedmaster Ref 145022

Now I am starting to have it more clear, as soon as I get home I will post you a pic of the watch that I am speaking
many thanks

Martin

: I would be interested in your tabulation of what is
: different about this watch and a 145.022.

: Sorry -- you are wrong. You can still buy a 145.0022 today. And the
: watch I showed you is exactly what you asked about.

: While the identifier of the watch has changed due to changes in
: Omega's nomeclature, the 145.0022 is basically identical to
: today's model 3570 (which is a PIC number). Omega lists it as
: for sale since 1968. Yes, details have been changed, but the
: movement is the same except for changing to rhodium plating in
: 1996 or so, adding a jewel in 1993 and a Delrin (instead of
: metal) chronograph brake since about 1980, and the dial and hand
: changes have been subtle. The bracelet has been upgraded several
: times, all of which are interchangeable. The case parts are
: interchangeable.

: The 145.0022 a CASE reference number, of a hesalite crystalled, 861
: or 1861 (rhodium plated) movement calibre watch which has had a
: variety of casebacks with different engravings, changes in which
: Omega did not bother to note with new case or PIC numbers.
: Technically, it refers to the strap version of the watch; the
: bracelet version is 345.0022. Omega simply began referring to
: the 145.0022/345.0022 as the 3570 when they began using seven
: digit PICs to sell watches.

: See this page from the Omega website's "Omega Vintage
: Database" -- emphasis added

:

Speedmaster - "Moon Watch"


: Gents' metal bracelet
: Reference
:

ST 145.0022

: International collection
: 1968

: Movement
: Type: Manual winding (mechanical)
: Caliber number: 861
: Created in 1968
: 17 jewels until 1992
: 18 jewels since 1993
: Formerly called "27 CHRO C12"
: Used on second generation "moon watches"

: Functions
: Tachymeter, Chronograph

: Case
: Stainless steel

: Case back
: Screw-in
: Full metal
: Dial
: Mat black with luminous hour markers and luminous white “stick
: ” hands.

: Crystal
: Armoured hesalite

: Bracelet
: Stainless steel (attached)

: Water resistance
: 50 meters
: This watch may have existed with different dials.
: More product information
: Case : round (14.4 x 42 mm), with screw-in crown
: Size between case lugs : 20 mm
: Bezel : stainless steel with inserted black aluminium tachometer
: ring.
:

International Collection : since 1968


: Swiss retail price (1974) : CHF 540.-
: Swiss retail price (1975) : CHF 600.-
: Swiss retail price (2006) : CHF 3'300.-

(Ref. PIC
: 3570.50.00)


: JLM

: The watch I showed you photos of was a 1998 variation of the above
: watch with broad arrow hands, a dial without
: "Professional" and an applied Omega symbol, a silver
: bezel and a different caseback. It is otherwise identical and
: precisely fits the criteria you stated. Known as the 1957
: Replica, the basic 3570/145.0022 Moonwatch was altered to
: resemble the original Speedmaster as issued in 1957 with a
: silver bezel and "broad arrow" hands.

: This is the watch that came in the Speedmaster MISSIONS suitcase.

:

Speedmaster - Replica

Gents' metal bracelet
: Reference
: ST 345.0222

: International collection
: 1998

: Movement
: Type: Manual winding (mechanical)
: Caliber number: 1861
: Created in 1996
: 18 jewels
: Rhodium-plated version of cal. 861, with "Geneva" waves
: Used on third generation "moon watches"

: Functions
: Tachymeter, Chronograph

: Case
: Stainless steel

: Case back
: Screw-in
: Full metal
: Dial
: With luminous hour markers and luminous "broad arrow"
: hands

: Crystal
: Armoured hesalite

: Bracelet
: Stainless steel

: Water resistance
: 50 meters

: This watch may have existed with different dials.
: More product information
: This watch style commemorates the 150th. Anniversary of
: OMEGA in the Speedmaster Collection, it was inspirated by the
: first Speedmaster of 1957 (ref. CK 2915) with SS bezel,
: "broad arrow" hands, and applied Omega symbol on the
: dial.
: PIC ref. 3594.50.00 (or 3598.50.00 with "Replica"
: engraved on the outside case back if the piece comes from one of
: the 40 Speedmaster Missions briefcases enclosing each 23
: watches).

: Case : round (38,8mm diameter)
: Size between case lugs : 20 mm
: International Collection : 1998-2001
: Swiss retail price (2001) : CHF 3'200.-
: Also available on leather strap (PIC 3894.50.37, CHF 3'200.-) and
: in a limited and numbered series of 150 pieces, 18K yellow gold
: on gold (BS 345.0052 or PIC 3193.50.00, CHF 16'500.-) and 18K
: yellow gold on leather (BS 145.0052 or PIC 3693.50.00, CHF
: 7'600.-), both with caliber 1863.
: JLM

: To my knowledge, this is the only instance of a manual Speedmaster
: with "broad arrow" hands. There have been many
: automatic Speedmasters with broad arrow hands.

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