: Hi everybody,
: i'm desperately seeking advice on the speedmaster "moon
: watch". I'm thinking about buying a speedmaster pro from a
: local dealer. But i'm not really sure whether that watch is all
: authentic or made of parts from different watches. I was not
: able to take a picture, but i have had the chance to note down
: the numbers inside the case and on the movement:
: Inside the case it says 145022-68
: the movement is marked 2732273 5 or 0, not sure about the last
: digits.
: The movement is an 861, not a 321, but the dial is with the applied
: omega logo and of the non-flat-type.The dial says
: "speedmaster professional" and "t swiss t".
: According to some websites, watches with the 861 mvt have the
: flat, painted logo dial, that's why i'm unsure.If the -68 inside
: the case was refering to the year of production, were there
: watches with the 861 in that year at all? One website indicated
: that the 861 models started in 1969...
: Another feature: the caseback says speedmaster and shows the
: speedmonster, nothing else.
: Also confusing is that the watch has hands in the proper shape, but
: in stainless steel with luminous inlays, as opposed to hands in
: white paint. might be replacements?
: So my question is: does this combination of features, parts,
: numbers etc. make sense, did Omega produce such watches?
: And off course, if that watch were in pretty good condition, how
: much should i expect to pay?
: I'd be most grateful for all thoughts and information,
: thanks a lot,
: Bernhard
From what I have seen caliber 861 started production in 1968, however the serial # dates it to 1969. It also appears that caliber 861 was introduced with a painted Omega logo. Im no expert, but it seems that you have a 68 case with a 69 movement with a replaced dial and hands. As always, pics would help. Sounds like a put together piece with no real collector value. If the movement is real and you like the vintage look and it runs great, then maybe a nominal value of under $700-$800 usd is just a guess. Keep in mind that you can buy original NOS parts to replace the dial/hands/caseback to specs. Might cost you $500 or so for the complement. The watch also probably needs service, maybe tack on $300 also. A lot of trouble and money if you want my honest opinion.