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A forum for identifying and avoiding wholly or partially non-authentic wristwatches --
including counterfeit, replica, Frankenwatches and other fake or bastardized pieces.
Our objective here is to DISCOURAGE the sales and purchase of counterfeit
wristwatch and jewelry products. It is also for helping people identify
watches that are mostly authentic, but have been: altered for personal customization,
repaired with inappropriate parts or modified to be passed off as more valuable pieces.
Including a photo of the piece you are talking about ALWAYS helps! You can learn how to post a photo here: How To Include Photos In Your Postings. 'For sale' postings, commercial solicitation and ads are not allowed. Links to Internet auctions are acceptable only if their purpose is to question the authenticity of a product or provide new clues for identifying counterfeit products. Links that appear to be 'shills' promoting the sale of counterfeit products will be deleted. Links to websites of sellers of counterfeit items are not permitted -- we know they are out there and do not need to be encouraging them by sending traffic to their sites. Privacy, additional policies and administrivia are covered in the Terms of Use.
I have read the advert wording and noted the seller's feedback, several things stand out:
1. Nowhere does the seller actually guarantee that it is a Heuer; at best he goes on about it being "in the Heuer style." This may be because, to him, it is obviously genuine...
2. BUT... His feedback is excellent, he probably knows what he's doing, why should he buy in a fake to sell it? This is a business, not a private seller - does he want to lose a hard earned reputation in theses hard economic times? Perhaps he thinks that it is so obvious that it is genuine, the specific words do not need to be written?
3. The seller's wording in his advert is way over the top - he really oversells every atom of this item; nothing can be left without saying how marvellous/ traditional/ filled with craftsmanship and history/ etc., that watch part is! I'm afraid the Germans often go in for this sort of wild and unrestrained praise.
4. The watch is described as "fully restored". The dial cannot be from the 40s as the markings are not of Radium (I am assuming that the colour is correct on the numbers) although they are described as luminous. There is a photo of the movement, which, to me, looks like a genuine Heuer (Anyone else out there know if this movement was produced in the 40s - early 50s?)
5. When the seller says "fully restored" he has really gone to town on the restoration, I suspect that everything on the outside has been re-done in a workshop.
6. Quite frankly, the condition, were it original, is far too good, for its age, to be on ebay; it's probably too good to be anywhere outside the Heuer museum!
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