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A forum for identifying and avoiding wholly or partially non-authentic wristwatches -- including counterfeit, replica, Frankenwatches and other fake or bastardized pieces. Our objective here is to DISCOURAGE the sales and purchase of counterfeit wristwatch and jewelry products. It is also for helping people identify watches that are mostly authentic, but have been: altered for personal customization, repaired with inappropriate parts or modified to be passed off as more valuable pieces.

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Re: Vintage Omega, re-dials or fakes?

: I think what we are looking at here is the
: difference between a good restoration and an
: amateurish, slap-dash restoration. The
: former is often uneconomic but can be really
: impressive, but the latter pays only
: attention to turning a quick buck, often
: dishonestly.

Agreed. All very good points you make. Personally, I've seen people who restore and/or modify cars very well and some who put junk on them and ruin them! I'm just trying to avoid the ones who sell watches that have been poorly done.

I've been a buyer and seller on eBay for many things. As long as you know what you are looking for, you can spot a deal/wise purchase. That is why I am reluctant to bid/buy until I really have an understanding of what constitutes a good/wise decision. That also applies to any non-eBay vintage watch sellers. I've been searching archives to read who and who not to buy from. BTW, if you have any recommendations on that matter, feel free to PM me.

: One fault lies with Omega themselves they do
: not produce dials for out of date models. I
: can only assume that (a) they intend that
: watches will become unwearable after a time
: and that the owner will then go out and buy
: a new Omega and (b) that producing and
: keeping large quantities of old stock is
: uneconomic.

That is unfortunate, although it's completely understandable that there is no economic incentive for them to stock parts for vintage models. It sure would be great if some retired Omega employee would start up a small business.

: I sometimes wonder why, like the honest after-
: market in car body parts, some enterprising,
: reformed, expert dial-faker does not start
: up a trade in quality-finished rare parts
: including dials.

Yes! Agreed....maybe we should find one and suggest it to them!

Thanks for all of your valuable input - greatly appreciated.

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