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Cheers R
: Rich:
: I have taken the liberty of copying and pasting your very
: interesting blog posting, below. Here is the link to your
: posting -- http://www.heuermonaco.co.uk/#/blog/4535761042
: Your posting shows us one fake watch; perhaps more importantly it
: shows us the methodology of inspecting any vintage chronograph.
: So will you report this to the auctioneer, and see whether they
: will remove the thing?
: Well done!!
: Jeff
: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
: We have had another period where there seem to be more redial/fake
: Monacos in circulation than original dials!
: Not surprising I guess, when we know this already rare watch had to
: contend with the dreaded melting seal which deposited a dark
: rubbery mess onto the dial edges, which then ate away at the
: dial. I’m not at all convinced this watch was ever water
: resistant either, the unusual case and seal design do not lend
: itself to this, I wonder how many were returned in the 70s due
: to this, before owners decided to make it a dry watch only!
: Lastly the dial also degraded on some variants via the lume
: dots, although this seems to have been on the metallic dial
: variants only.
: So this brings us to the PVD in question which is coming up for
: sale via auction. Is it a bone fide 74033N Monaco? Well in short
: no...We have seen these re-dials before but there are plenty of
: tell tale signs as to why they are not genuine Heuer dials.
: Here is the link to the auction -
: http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=1822+++++142+&refno=10309037
: The biggest "tell" on a Vintage Heuer Monaco is the
: script. The Heuer and Monaco lettering on this PVD 74033 should
: have seriph flourishes, this does not.
: The classic case of the open 4s. 4s on all the original authentic
: dials should be closed and not open like this one.
: Interestingly the original PVD Monaco sub registers should not
: have numbers aligned flat (like all the other Monacos) but the
: centre 2 numbers on each sub register should be proud of the
: numbers on the left and right and in this one they are not. I
: guess whoever painted these dials, looked to a standard Monaco
: for inspiration when copying..?
: The date window on an original PVD variant should have a black
: date window and not the red one this re-dial has.
: Last but not least the hands on this PVD are not correct. The hour
: and minute hand are correct BUT the sub register hands and the
: chronograph second hand should all be a vibrant almost luminous
: orange, perhaps these hands are what the watchmaker had left in
: his box..? Some of these issues may appear subtle individually
: but when you see the finished article its easy to spot that it
: just doesn’t look quite right. Always best therefore to buy
: from a trusted source or if in doubt feel free to drop me a line
: about any Monacos you are unsure of, before committing
: substantial funds to something that is not authentic.
: For more information on Monaco authenticity check here --
: http://www.heuermonaco.co.uk/#/monaco-authenticity/4538756513
: or contact me at crosthwaite@hotmail.com
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