Yes ...that is what my thread is saying between the lines :-)

so for me there are still only 3 versions (seepi i would not rate as a mark version: its THE siffert).

1 steel hands, big block, 36912, cal 11
2 blue inlay hands, big block, 36912, cal 11
3 vic hands, black thin blocks, 123456789101112, cal 12

this worked for me 10 years and will also work the next 10 years.

Further segmentation is destroying the myth and also reality.

rgds
alex