: Great opion mark.....i also think my carrera case is with a very late no , i put together mariage.... ...

See you in munich on the intern watchshow this weekend?

Best regards

Jasper

...I thought they were 404 dials that had been amended to read
: Autavia by someone unscrupulous.

: Then we saw more of them, and closer up, enough to see that the
: quality of the Autavia printing was sufficient to believe that
: these were ex-factory rather than reprinted. But they were all
: loose dials, not mounted in a watch.

: And having seen a few, more crop up and now they were appearing in
: watches. Perhaps it was a run of prototype dials that never made
: it to production and were only now being mounted?

: But then David was contacted by the original owner of one from
: circa 1965 and, bar the incorrect replaced bezel, it was
: confirmation that it had actually made it to production.

:
:

: I do wonder if it was in limited markets though. We don't see many,
: and it never caught on enough to also have the Deci and Pulso
: dials that typically followed after the Tachy version. My theory
: would be that it is quite an early Autavia - it's not in 1966
: and 1967 catalogues so I figure earlier than that - and that the
: success of the Carrera, with its own on-dial Tachy, Deci and
: Pulso scales, killed off this nascent line of scaled Autavias.

: I see nothing to suggest it would have been, or was ever intended
: to be, factory mounted in a Carrera case and the serial number
: of yours is too late to coincide with the dial features Jasper.
: There seem to have been considerably more dials produced than
: were fitted and I feel that indicates an aborted production run,
: perhaps in a test market or two and lots of surplus dials. And
: that leads me to believe yours, and any other Carrera cases with
: this dial, are a marriage rather than as they came from the
: factory.

: Perhaps there is a clue in this 1963 catalogue:

:
:

: The note at the top that mentions "Dials with special
: graduations" I always believed applied only to the
: pre-Carreras and not to the Autavias on the same page. That was
: certainly the case on later brochures that had the same text
: alongside Carreras but, at this early stage and having seen
: quite a few of these dials now, I can see that it might also
: have meant Autavias. In which case, there could even be Deci and
: Pulso versions of this dial too. The bottom of that page exhorts
: us to write away for a detailed chronograph catalogue - the
: answers could lie in a chrono catalogue from 1963, 64 and/or
: 1965, so if anyone has one of those, please take a look and see
: if the watch is shown.