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Re: Siffert Going Cheap on ebay?

: Hello Norman and welcome to the club,

: A week or so ago in a thread about another
: white dial Autavia, Chuck suggested that it
: is not correct to refer to non automatic
: white dial Autavias as "Shiffert".
: I went a step further and suggested that it
: is better to not use the Shiffert nickname
: at all. It is more confusing than helpful.

: There are over 10 different versions of white
: or silver face Autavias and more than 4
: versions of white dial automatic Autavias.
: Guess what, Shiffert actually wore only ONE
: of these (the chronomatic?). So what model
: exactly are we refering to when we talk
: about the "Shiffert"?

: Even if you want to describe an automatic,
: white dial Autavia with blue trims, it is
: IMO better not to call it
: "Shiffert". Because most probably
: it is not identical to the last detail to
: the exact model Joe Shiffert wore. Heuer
: have never called their watches
: "Shiffert" or "Mcqueen"
: or anything, in the way Omega is calling a
: limited edition Speedmaster
: "Schumacher".

: The watch in the auction is not automatic.

: Calling a white dial Autavia a Shiffert may
: help a seller make some money but has
: nothing to do with the real value of the
: watch. Don't fall to the Shiffert trap.
: Don't buy a watch just because of a fancy -
: wrongly attributed - nickname.

: As for the authenticity of this white dial
: Autavia...
: I would be surprized if someone could prove
: that Heuer did make a model exactly like
: this one. (for starters, the hour and minute
: hands seem wrong)

: Probably other forum member could provide more
: definitive answers about the authenticity of
: this watch.

: Regards
Brovo!!! yes its not a mico rotor auto. the most important fact.

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