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I can understand you take this personal. That was never my intention. I think you know that.
I have repeatedly underlined all the fantastic work you did and still do for OTD.
But that doesn't mean we cannot reflect on certain things. The thing to reflect on in my opinion is the Chronotrader platform.
We all know that you don't have the time to scan everything. We are not asking that from you.
So of course others will have to step in and help. These scammers have all the time in the world. Time that you don't have.
And they are making victims. Believe me. Almost every week. Otherwise they would not be here.
I have been a victim twice. Once here and once on OF. It's not very fun to admit how naive you have been.
People telling you how stupid you have been. In the OF case I was scammed by a very known VRM and OF member.
When I wanted to post a warning about that scammer on VRM my post was deleted. Finally it turned out that several other VRM members had had issues with that guy.
So when you mention only 4 reported cases of people being ripped you will allow me to believe that in fact the number is much higher.
I cannot speak for Chrono24 but I can for Ebay and OF. On Ebay a buyer has the Ebay protection program. So it's impossible to lose money there.
OF you need to build up a reputation first as an active member with a minimum of 200 post, then you get a security check. And then at last every sales post is reviewed by several moderators.
It doesn't mean that every buyer is safe 100%. Any trusted member can turn to the dark side at one moment, exactly what happened to me. But chances of being scammed are so much smaller. I think we will all agree on that.
So again, it might take money, time and people to improve things just a little. I am prepared to help. I know some others that are prepared to help.
But I am also ok with leaving things as they are. I will accept that. If we think that it is not worth the effort.
But that doesn't mean we can't reflect. And that doesn't mean we cannot tell people to be careful.
In short that was all I wanted to say.
So again, my apologies if my message sounded ungrateful.
In fact I can only be grateful for a fantastic place like OTD. And I really mean that.