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Re: Vintage Omega, re-dials or fakes?
In Response To: Vintage Omega, re-dials or fakes? *LINK* ()

The letter "T" before and after the words "Swiss Made" means that the glow in the dark lume includes a radioactive material, I believe Tritium.

I believe a watch not saying "Swiss made" is very common for older watches (1950s and before).

I'm no expert at spotting fakes, but all of your examples look like typical examples of vintage Omegas. Nothing about them jumps out as overly fishy to me (especially the "T Swiss Made T").

: Is it me or does the 'Bay' seem to have a lot
: of vintage Omegas that seem to be a bunch of
: NOS pieces and parts put together?
: Admittedly, I am still a novice at judging
: authenticity but there are things that
: bother me. It's hard to tell if these are
: legit.

: Obviously these watches (see links) have been
: redialed. If they want to make these look
: authentic, why do they add extras to the
: Swiss Made, i.e. - Swiss Made - or T - Swiss
: Made - T. One does not even say Swiss Made!
: What is that?! I have never actually seen
: any of my real Swiss Made watches with extra
: characters or missing the label, Swiss Made.

: Have they simply been redialed or are they
: suspect for being completely faked by some
: “expert counterfeiters” in China, Hong Kong
: , etc.?

: (Won't let me do 3 links - here are all three
: URL's for "cut and paste")

:
: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130108218378&rd=1&rd=1

:
: http://cgi.ebay.com/1964-VINTAGE-OMEGA-SEAMASTER-DE-VILLE-1-NR_W0QQitemZ130108117475QQihZ003QQcategoryZ31387QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

:
: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=020&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=300102788120&rd=1&rd=1

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