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A forum for identifying and avoiding wholly or partially non-authentic wristwatches -- including counterfeit, replica, Frankenwatches and other fake or bastardized pieces. Our objective here is to DISCOURAGE the sales and purchase of counterfeit wristwatch and jewelry products. It is also for helping people identify watches that are mostly authentic, but have been: altered for personal customization, repaired with inappropriate parts or modified to be passed off as more valuable pieces.

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Gray Market claimed that the watches they sell are GENUINE (NOT FAKE OR REPLICA)and NEW (SAVE FOR ROLEX). They admitted that they are not an authorized dealer unless stated, but from what I noticed, they are NOT for virtually all of the luxurious watches they are selling. They also stated that the SERIAL NUMBER for all the watches they are selling are NOT REMOVED (or "filed" off) and where they admitted that they are NOT an AUTHORIZED dealer, those watches they claimed, will only be warranted by them and not the manufacturer. Well, they do sounds honest here. Anyway, I would to know the following:-

1) Does anyone in the forum has an experience dealing with this company before? And, if it is yes, please let me know what was the experience like.

2) requests for a wire transfer on foreign purchases (i.e. OUTSIDE US/CANADA). Is it secure? safe?

3) Some of the watches they are selling are as high as 50% less than the retail. With the SERIAL NO. not removed, I wonder how the manufacturer deals with their authorized dealer that sold their watches to company like atlantic time. Anyone with answers?

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