Chuck:
continuing your use of the "F-words" to explore this category, I would add "Fakes" and "Frauds" to the list. Let's define "Fakes" as anything that looks like a genuine item (original), but is not, regardless of the intent of the seller; the "Fraud" derives from the intent of the seller to misrepresent a piece in order to deceive the buyer.
Any more "F-words" for this glossary??
Jeff

: . . . yet another rare
: "prototype" , in New Old Stock
: condition, with a "guarantee" that
: it is a genuine Heuer.

: I do not believe that Heuer produced this
: prototype, but will stand corrected if
: others have different information. I have
: seen these cases and dials offered through
: various channels . . . can anyone offer
: conclusive proof that they were either
: assembled or not assembled by Heuer?? some
: of the parts may be genuine, but can anyone
: offer theories as to who did the assembly of
: these parts and when?? I can't do a
: disection of this watch like you are doing
: on "the Targo Florio's" Jeff,
: certainly not yet anyway. But in looking
: through the responses that your posting has
: already generated I think that perhaps we
: can standardize on phrases to describe these
: watches: Factory Original : A watch as
: shipped from Heuer's assembly point and sold
: through known sales channels.

: Factory Prototype : A watch assembled by Heuer
: but never sold to the public in that form at
: that time. (Perhaps prototypes escaped in
: the turmoil of the various ownership changes
: in the 1980's).

: Frankenwatch : A watch containing components
: that weren't originally in this form by
: Heuer. An Autavia dial and movement in a
: Montreal Case is an example. These can have
: all original Heuer parts, but in
: combinations that Heuer-Leonidias never
: shipped/sold/marketed.

: Assembled from Original Heuer parts : A
: recased Autavia, with a NOS dial, housing an
: original Autavia movement is an example. Can
: be a Franken or not...

: Newly Remanufactured Prototype : I have a
: bunch of parts that look like an oddball
: one-off Autavia, I'll put them together and
: hopefully get my expenses out of some
: schmuck on eBay...

: Of course Frankenwatches can borrow components
: from other manufacturers as well. Expecially
: in this example of using Elgin or Breitling
: hands on this "Autavia".

: I'm sure there are other origin's for watches
: as well. Perhaps we should coin phrases for
: them as well...

: "Add your own!"

: -- Chuck

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