well it seems like there is some disagreement between the veterans.

I don't have the longevity of history and the experience that it comes with, but i will also say that i do not have any of the bias that a longevity of history may bring with it.

as a novice, and someone that has in the short period of time that i have been collecting seen both white dial color variants with an MH bezel and plenty of black dial variants with T bezels, it seems illogical and somewhat misleading to denote that 1163T denotes a an autavia with a t bezel only if the color is not black.

should we collectively maybe reconsider a nomenclature that is purely factual (is it an 1163, 1630 or 11063) and (does it have a tachy bezel or a miniute/hour bezel) that way every watch can be categorized in a logical way.

or maybe i should just mind my own business.