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I've Read the Guidelines; Seem Right to Me

while I am a novice in the world of watch "politics" and related territorial matters, the guidelines sound right to me . . . they make sense and have the right tone.
On with the show!!

: Hello and greetings everyone! Please read...

: A couple of things that perhaps we should say
: before going too much further.

: I'm trying to hammer out a reasonable set of
: guidelines for conduct here in the forum. I
: haven't spoken with Jeff or Derek much on
: this so please bear with us while we get up
: to speed.

: I'm using as a starting point a thing I helped
: Bill Sohne with when he was tabbed to
: moderate the Zenith Forum over at TZ nearly
: 18 months ago. I'm sure some of the verbage
: will slip through and seem out of place...

: We are just starting out on this on Heuer forum
: here on Chronocentric/OnTheDash... It's been
: public knowledge that I have been trying to
: get a Heuer forum (Among others) created
: over at TimeZone for the better part of 3 1
: /2 to 4 years... The folks at TZ have a
: different vision for TZ and that's fine,
: they own the site. I will continue to
: participate over at TZ mainly in the Omega
: forum, and to a lesser degree in the other
: forums. I hope we will become great
: neighbors to one another and can help each
: other out whenever possible.

: One of our goals here is to be great neighbors
: will the watch community. Another other
: primary goal is to provide the place to
: discuss Heuers that the web has lacked up
: until now. And another of our goals is to
: increase the knowledge and materials
: available on these watches.

: First off, if you have any technical problems,
: please let one of us (Derek, Jeff or me)
: know. We can't fix it if we aren't
: experienceing it and don't know it's
: happening.

: On the subject Off-Site links... Here are
: some guidelines, they might be a little
: different from other forums you're familiar
: with. If what you are linking to is an
: informational post on the specific subject
: it will not be an issue . At this point,
: we have not developed a policy on FS, FSOT,
: WTT, WTB, etc. (For Sale, Want to Buy, etc.)
: type posts. So until we have a set policy
: please try to refrain from posting them for
: now. I believe we might eventually have
: "Flea Market" day's when these
: types of posts are encouraged, when we
: figure out a policy on them, we'll announce
: them. While posts to Manufacturer's
: (TAG-Heuer, etc.) are permissible,
: especially to specific pages for commentary,
: General links to dealers are discouraged at
: this time. If you wish to discuss a
: particular watch, cut and paste the picture
: and description... Links to noncommercial
: informative sites when useful to illustrate
: an example (an Omega example would be Eric
: So's Favorite Omega Site ) will be
: allowed . Links to pages that list Web
: Dealers, E-Tailors, etc. will be allowed as
: long as those pages themselves are
: noncommercial. In other words Hobbyist
: Dealer Lists will be allowed just as
: Hobbyist Informational Sites (like Eric So's
: mentioned above) are. In fact I maintain a
: listing of watch dealers and am always
: looking to add listings, email me and I'll
: add just about anyone (except for obvious
: counterfeiters). All other links off site
: will be decided on a case by case basis . If
: you have questions please contact me at:
: , and between the
: three of us we'll figure out how to handle
: it.

: On the subject of Off-Topic discussions:
: I don't think anyone here is going to have
: any problems with someone asking opinions
: about a modern TAG-Heuer product, or a
: thread on how a Vintage Speedmaster stands
: up with a Vintage Carrera. While the main
: focus of the site is to discuss Vintage
: Heuer's a little diversion now and then
: should not be a problem. Don't be
: surprised if people tangent off onto a
: discussion about cars or drivers... The
: topic and history of Heuer's are so
: interwoven with motorsports history it's
: only natural it will happen. However,
: nothing causes more disruption to a forum
: than discussions about Religion, Politics,
: or other contentious issues. There are
: plenty of other places to have those
: discussions. Let's keep our flame-wars to a
: minimum, seek out via a web search engine
: where on the web those other topics are
: being discussed and have a blast there!
: Troll's and shills are not welcome.

: A little bit about myself... I have personally
: been a Heuer owner for nearly 20 years, and
: if you count some of the stopwatches that my
: father owned over 30 years. My first serious
: Swiss watches were a Heuer Pilot's model and
: an Omega Mark II Professional purchased in
: 1983 or 1984. Although many people know me
: for the commentary I've done on Omega's
: truth be told I feel just as comfortable, if
: not more comfortable with a Heuer on my
: wrist. However, the reason why I haven't
: written much on Heuer's has been a lack of
: material on them.

: Jeff Stein (owner of OnTheDash) on the other
: hand has been collecting buckets and
: barrel's of information on Heuer
: Dash-Mounted timers for quite some time now.
: And the image that greets people logging on
: to OnTheDash, causes me to gasp everytime I
: see it. He is the go to person on Dashboard
: stuff.

: Derek Ziglar (Owner of Chronocentric) while not
: being a huge Heuer fan (correct me if I'm
: wrong here D!) has run one of the most
: visually pleasing watch special interest
: sites on the web for as long as I've been
: looking. If everything is running good and
: smooth, Derek deserves your kind thoughts,
: and if it's not, please temper your
: commentary with the knowledge that he is
: graciously letting us play in his yard!

: With the help of other people interested in
: Heuers I hope we can push back the cobwebs
: that surround the brand and that a couple of
: years from now we have a body of material
: and knowledge that will equal or surpass the
: material available on the web for Omega's,
: Rolex and other Tool Watch brands. For after
: all, Heuer had a reputation of being a tool
: watch for most of it's existence. In fact
: during the 1960's and 1970's Heuer's were a
: far more common site around speedway's,
: proving grounds, rallies and horse tracks
: than any other brand.

: Please keep in mind that you don't get a
: "moderators reference guide" when
: a forum opens and we're learning the ropes
: (at least Jeff and I are). That many Forums
: run as smooth as they do it is a testament
: to the current and past Forum Moderators and
: the wise folks who choose them. They deserve
: a thank you if you enjoy those forums.

: Please bear with me on this. I understand the
: Forum is not perfect, and building it up to
: what it should be will take time and will
: likely be a trial and error process. I hope
: you will realize the same thing. I want to
: be a good neighbor and have friendly
: relations with all other watch enthusiasts.
: I believe this is possible and achievable.
: For in the end it isn't about keeping scores
: or making points but sharing our common
: interest and passion with one another and
: helping each other (and the community as a
: whole) out...

: I hope you will come along for the ride, bumps
: and all... I think we have the core of a
: very dynamic group.

: Good Hunting...

: Chuck Maddox

: P.S. One thing that I believe would be helpful
: and enlightening that we started doing over
: at the Omega forum on TZ that I would like
: to duplicate here is including the
: geographical region you hail from in your
: posts. As I live in the Chicago area in the
: USA I include that information in with my
: name. This will help people know when it is
: a reasonable expectation for you to be
: available, and also if you happen to live
: near another poster, you might wish to get
: together and talk watches either on the
: phone or in person. This is something I
: would like to encourage people to do, but it
: is not a requirement. Thanks! -- C

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