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: louisbrant Posts: Thanks Chuck You made
: my morning!

: Chuck: "Let's go with your theory...
: They get worse with time, so you should sell
: them to me and only me for pennies on the
: dollar. I have broken out my spare change
: jar to pay your for your collection. I await
: a detailed listing of your inventory and a
: place to mail you a very modest MO. Then you
: can go out and buy yourself a nice new
: Swatch."

: Ok! So mabye I was wrong Because these
: watches coming out of South America are
: probably new or recently made . So they are
: making your statement come true . I
: have a personal difficulty being wrong or
: personally making wrong statements . More
: accurately, I would rather avoid having to
: note/admit instances I am wrong. Hence, I
: try to be very careful when I state
: definatively without "wiggle
: words" that something is a fake or a
: franken. ¿Wiggle words? I discussed these in
: depth less than a month ago in the post ‘
: Statements, comments, opinions & the
: differences… ’. You may wish to
: (re)read this post.

: I am not in the habit of making wrong
: statements, when it seems I'm going out on a
: limb, I really feel very certain of my
: footing.

: I don't know how recent the watches in
: question were (re)manufacturered, but I
: believe the chances of these watches having
: come out of a Heuer facility in Switzerland
: in the vintage implied by the seller and
: consistant of the years of production of the
: movement contained within is miniscule to
: the point of being nigh undetectable.

: Again Chuck Thank you very much.

: Still Smiling Ok...

: LB

: ps where did the Jeff's post go that stated
: this in the first place ? The seller
: contacted him about the fair use thing and
: someone offerred a huge bag of M&Ms to go
: south to take him on ?Now I can't find it .
: It hasn't gone anywhere... The post is
: entitled ‘ Guy Selling This Fake
: Challenges Me -- jeff stein -- 9/2/04

Hello All
The thing was that it was in the "Chronomatic Brochure -- May 1969 -- Jeff Stein -- 9/1/04 " Thread and I admit I'm not very good at this chat I.T. stuff . And it was there ( off topic I guess ) that the "fair use" , "take you to court" , "Ya! you sell fakes ", "copyright" thing started .
And the age of the frankens have changed due to being Bionic with all kinds of remanufactured parts . The design is new becuase they did not excist 3 decades ago (the watches in there current form ). You can find ref. for a 70's Heuer monaco and a 2003 Franken Heuer at OTD. So that is why, I in my magnanimousness said that your statment was true Because even a worn out Lamania 5100 is going to shine next a newly minted Franken .
There is a theme to our long threads ( all two of them ) and that is although the main statement is true the reason for the statement is not . Sort of like if Jeff said the sky is blue and it because the moon is made of blue cheese . Of course the sky is blue , Of course this will never go to court and of course they are fakes but not becuase it is this one seller or the fact they are fakes , make it open season on coyright and that the moon is made of blue cheese .
Before you do your "troll" like cutting , paisting and making things bold remember the franken seller with the near perfect vintage Autavia with the Seiko bezel.You said it was a franken because of the seller " you buy a watch you buy the seller".And evryone else started posting like a feeding frenzy.

Cheers