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Re: Let's talk 1163 GMT
In Response To: Let's talk 1163 GMT ()

You raise a number of interesting points there Abel.
For my own part i see the potential in your new watch to call it a second execution 1163 GMT. The dial looks to be the same as the 1-24 bezel first series.
Your serial number seems to fall between those 1-24 bezel models which usually start with 205xxx & my 1163 production GMT even numbers & red flash minute register version that has a 247xxx serial number.

Further to this i missed out on an identical red flash GMT a while back that also had a 247xxx serial number.
Not in any way a conclusion but we do see the 1st execution 1-24 bezel models in a very tight 205xxx serial range and now i'm aware of 2 red flash GMT's in the 247xxx range clearly your case falls in between the ranges so potentially it could be the first attempt at a Cal.14 production run. This could go some way to explaining the colour variations in the hands. Interesting also to note that your bezel has no lume dot present at the 24.
Hope this adds to the discussion - Darren

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: Hello,

: I just received a nice 1163 GMT. I have been tempted to buy one
: several times in the past but never made the jump. I owned a
: 11063 GMT and an 11630 GMT before, this is my very first 1163
: GMT. I love the touch and feel of the plexi.

: However, there are some little things that "trouble"
: me and I'm sure the GMT experts around here will know the
: answers. Here are my questions/remarks;

: * Was this reference originally equipped with an orange central
: seconds hand? I think it should be red.
: * Was this 1163 GMT produced with red subregister chronograph
: hands? I think they should be black...but I have already seen
: more then three of these with red subreg hands...it makes me
: doubt...
: * What about the dial? This is a second execution 1163 GMT, because
: it has the caliber 14 instead of the caliber 11 GMT, it has a
: higher serial number then the first generation 1163 GMT's and it
: uses the second generation GMT bezel. I assumed only the first
: generation 1163 GMT's used this kind of dial, I refer to the
: minute subregister which is completely white while (as far as I
: know) the second generation 1163 GMT's had the three red
: circular striped in the minute register.

: Looking forward to some answers ;-) Here are some pics...I also
: plan to post some "after" pics when it's ready...
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: Thanks,
: abel.

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