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including counterfeit, replica, Frankenwatches and other fake or bastardized pieces.
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Derek,
Thanks a lot for the explanation. Very clear!
So if a seller refinishes a vintage watch dial and takes "artistic liberty" to introduce a style that never existed on an original Omega watch, then it is not fraud--simply "buyer beware."
But... what I'm curious about is how a non-OEM styled dial affects that value of a vintage watch. Did Omega keep very accurate records of all the face styles produced? Is it possible some were produced that have no records? I've seen some vintage Omegas for sale on eBay with truly beautiful dials that seem a little to "avant garde" for the styles Omega has been known for. Would you say that this is basically inconsequential for the average buyer? If so, then I suspect that it would only be an issue for the Omega purist.
I know of some vintage pen specialists that take existing pens and modify them (like adding cabuchons that were never OEM), to end up selling them for sometimes even more than the average OEM vintage pen of that model. Is that an applicable analogy for vintage watch dials?
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