I admire your tecknical skills and see that you are a victim who was harmed by bernie. your explanation is very complete and seems to be the truth.

but why do you impersonate discussion forum readers; steal the identity of people like Chuck and Blake, and maybe many others who I can't recognize from the list of IDs?

you say there are no rules in love and war. is that why you damage innocent people who are watching this battle but have not participated in the original problams? seems you could accomplish your purpose to destroy bernie or make his life miserable and win your war, without all this collateral damage. these things of impersonating people make you look like the bad guy or maybe war criminal.

can you explain to readers? can we really believe anything you say when you hands are not clean?

A Neutral Observer

: Hello Group,

: I am glad I finally have the groups attention,
: as that was my ultimate aim. I am not
: victimising or persecuting �Good ol�
: the Innocent� but merely stating the facts.

: From his mail it does sound like he has been
: through a most arduous ordeal but he fails
: to recognise the humiliation and
: embarrassment he has caused to myself and my
: family.

: I am a watch collector, I buy what I like and
: sell what I don�t like. I have a number of
: eBay user id�s, one I use to sell the other
: to buy and many, which I have used and are
: waiting to be utilised for the purpose of
: exposing [BB] (whom I will
: refer to as B). I have never committed
: fraud and I believe in mutual respect of all
: regardless of race or religion.

: I had the misfortune to purchase from [BB] or Elvirab through eBay. Initially
: our transactions were smooth and
: unremarkable. He offered many deals, which
: were both attractive, and I developed what I
: thought was a good working and rewarding
: relationship. He offered to sell items
: outside of the eBay system hence benefiting
: us both. I was keen to take up this offer as
: it gave me access to his stock before it got
: to auction. We communicated regularly and I
: felt I had gained a friend

: I purchased many watches from over the
: coming months. The thought of getting them
: checked out never crossed my mind as I had a
: friend and associate that I could trust.

: The problems began with the infamous Heuer
: Flygraf much spoken about on this forum.
: When I received the first Flygraf from
: Berni, I thought I hit the Jackpot, here was
: a most unusual watch which I had never seen
: before and (being a pilot) I could put to
: good use. I enjoyed the watch for some
: months and then (as you do) became rather
: bored of it and sold it. This may have been
: a blessing in disguise, but the watch was
: lost by the Royal Mail. Fortunately it was
: insured and I received a full refund of
: approximately $850.00.

: I asked Berni if he had another one, as the
: buyer was keen to have that particular
: model. said he would look around and
: let me know. About a week later he confirmed
: he had another rare Heuer Flygraf this one
: was from the R.A.F or Royal Air Force). I
: was blown out of my socks, I could not
: believe my luck, this guy was an absolute
: god of the horological world. I ran at the
: chance to own such a unique watch. I
: purchased the watch and promptly received it
: along with some other watches. I later
: placed the flygraf on ebay and had an
: immediate offer. I sold the flygraf for
: around $750.

: Soon after the sale the buyer complained that
: the watch was fake. I convinced myself that
: this was not the case, how could it be,
: berni wouldn�t do this to me. I challenged
: berni and asked him to provide evidence as
: to the origin of this watch he kept on
: re-assuring me but the evidence never
: materialised.

: Soon the Police were in touch as I had been
: reported for deceit (criminal offence
: punishable by imprisonment). I was clutching
: to straws hoping that would come up
: with evidence proving the genuinely of the
: article. His attitude throughout this whole
: drama was less that supportive. He did not
: want any involvement. In order to cover
: myself, I had fax me a statement
: confirming that he had sold the item to me.

: The event set alarm bells ringing! I had all of
: the watches that I had purchased from Berni
: inspected and was shocked to find that 8 out
: of 20 pieces were fake. I could understand
: one, two, even three but eight? I still did
: not believe this was possible so I carried
: out some checks myself. I found it hard to
: believe it but I had been screwed without
: grease, what you may call a dry @#*%, by my
: good friend .

: I was interviewed by the police and all charges
: of deception were dropped. Mr. X received a
: full refund for the Flygraf . I later
: apologised to Mr. X and confirmed his
: findings relating to the fake Heuer.

: I advised that he had sold me 8 fake
: watches. After much negotiation, they were
: all returned, however he claimed that I was
: partly responsible and that I should accept
: to share some of the losses which amounted
: to $550 approx.. He was not willing to
: refund any money but replaced the fakes that
: I returned with four other watches two of
: which turned out to be fakes (1 fake heuer
: chronograph and a fake breitling).

: Everything else is history. My aim was to
: expose this guy for what he is, an
: opportunist and dishonest cheap thief. He
: obviously has some intelligence. He has
: attempted to cause much chaos and confusion
: by sending various letters (yes Bernie I
: have read your infamous letter) including
: the one addressed to this forum.

: He is right, I have left him very positive
: feedback but then I understood what berni is
: really about. Unfortunately most of the
: purchases were made outside of ebay so I do
: not have any way posting feedback.

: I have used some quite unorthodox means to get
: my message across, but as they say in china,
: there are no rules in love ad war. This guy
: is dishonest and I can prove it to you, I
: will make outlook.pst file which contains
: all of the communication between myself,
: Bernie, the police and Mr. X available
: shortly at www.webspace.tiscali.co.uk for
: all to download and see.

: Beware!!!

: Regards
: Diabolik

: FYI is [BB] (EL CAGONE) OR ELVIRAB