Mark,
we have a responsibility when we write and declare fake or original a watch.

I'm surprised about how someone can judge an object seen in a bad picture. I have a different approach.
And I'm not talking about Jeff, but a lot of people, expecially in Italy...
Do you know that in Italy, in the most important watch forum, people use Jeff's worlds and tell "all the military autavias are fake"!
This title remains for 1 day out before someone changed it...
For this reason I'm a little bit aggressive, but I don't change my mind: we must be careful when we talk about something that don't know because OTD is the Heuer global benchmark.
I'm not the first to talk about "rare" autavias, and mine is a friendly provocation... what is "good" and what is not?

Same for Silverstone: lot of people talk about it without further the argoment.

I'm not interessed to "derail"... I'm always ready to give answers, to learn.

: ...leaves something to be desired. As Jeff says, perhaps it's a
: language thing, but I find you can be overly aggressive.

: : For me, is important to demonstrate that, before expressing
: an opinion, you have to learn and develop an argument. But is
: not so important for all...

: Equally, it is important to listen to what the other side have to
: say in any discussion. It doesn't work to ignore what they have
: to say and even worse is to read other things into their words
: than what they have said, wilfully or otherwise.

: And have a point and stick with it. Develop it, sure, but don't
: bring in vague parallels and allegories that don't really work
: and only serve to confuse the issue. What did the exotic 1563 or
: Silverstone really have to do with the discussion and what did
: they bring to it? For me, they only served to derail the theme.

: Everyone is allowed an opinion. Everyone is allowed to express it
: here. They may not have handled the object in question, but does
: that prevent them from having any opinion on it at all? In this
: world of HD and above monitors and with so much information and
: precedent now available? I don't think so.

: Read the responses. Step back. Think about it. Am I arguing more
: emotively than I would if I didn't own one of the watches in
: question?

: That way we can have a friendly, fruitful discussion. I look
: forward to more of those.