zOwie Omega Discussion Forum

: Well, I would guess that these particular
: items are legitimate gripes that some do
: have with the Rolex machine, so why should
: they not be able to express those here? I
: agree, some do get out of hand, but this has
: been going on for many years and doubtful it
: will stop any time soon

: People seem to get "married" to a
: particular brand, and the Omega owners are
: pretty fierce in
: their loyalty.

: Umm, and Rolex owners aren't? Omega bashing
: goes on daily at other Rolex forums, and
: this is an Omega forum. Undoubtedly folks
: that own Omega over Rolex like the brand and
: will defend it.

If you check the WUS forums, there are like 5x as many posts for Omega as for Rolex. I suppose Rolex owners just wear their watches rather than talk about them as much? who knows.

: I am blessed to own several

: Well, its good for you that you have expanded
: your collection to several brands. I have
: not yet. I have and will continue to defend
: my Omega's against comparable Rolex
: offerings.

That is my point. Why defend? You have a nice watch. Nobody is attacking it (them).

I don't ever recall saying that
: Omega as a brand is better than Rolex.

Isn't that kind of what you just said in your last sentence? "I will continue to defend my Omega against any comparable Rolex..."

: However, in my personal experience, my first
: Omega Seamaster cost me (purchase price, not
: retail) about $1200. The comparable Rolex
: offering was $3800 at the time. I only point
: this out to say that I don't believe the
: Submariner is 3x the watch that the
: Seamaster is, so forgive me for bashing
: Rolex on this one.

I don't either, but they charge a premium for their products. I will try to quantify in that I believe at least compared to the SMP series (excluding the PO) that Rolex Subs are roughly 15-20% better. Don't ask me how I get to that number, it is just my opinion.

: So, what I was

: Of course, but 3x the price just so you can
: have a great service experience?? Come on,
: if I tell the average joe that product A and
: product B are virtually identical, but
: product B cost 3x the price and the reason
: that the price is different is that 10 years
: from now when you need a service, it will be
: top notch (not free, mind you, but top
: notch). You think he will give a rats butt
: that he will have a latte on the couch type
: service experience, when he can throw the
: old one in the trash and get a new one and
: still have money left over. This is the kind
: of kool aid drinking stuff that gets the
: flame wars started.

Some of us want to keep our watches as heirlooms, not dispose of them like razers.

: One factor is

: I am happy for you that you had a great
: service experience. Many Omega owners have
: had similar experience with watches 30+
: years old. There also have been negative
: experiences as well, and Im sure that Rolex
: has its fair share of service problems, but
: by your one experience, they are the best in
: the world, and justify the price of the
: watch by the service.

: Like I said, thats great service and seemed to
: exceed your expectations

: One of the gripes of Rolex service is that
: although they may do what you want, you
: cannot get the original parts back.

I specifically asked for similarities of negative experiences from Rolex in terms of scratched or abused watches. Not giving parts back is their way of controlling after market mods to protect the brand. I can respect that.

: Question, did you get the old hands and Dial
: back? Does this bother you, even though to a
: collector, this may have significantly
: depreciated the value of the watch? Although
: it may not bother you, it bothers many who
: may like the new look, but would like to
: have the old parts in case it does affect
: later resale value.

No, it won't bother me at all, as I don't plan on selling the watch - again see heirloom comment.

: You know, if you want feedback on Rolex
: service, post it over on the Rolex forums.
: Im sure you will get some dissenters as
: well. I don't own any Rolex watches, and
: will never. 5 years from now when I send my
: Seamaster in for routine service, ill let
: you know how it goes, or maybe ill save
: myself the trouble and go ahead and buy a
: new one.

See disposable razer comment.